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Orlando Gemes, Founder, and Chief Investment Officer at Fourier Asset Management, on how to use data to identify repeatable alpha


In a recent fireside chat hosted by Giovanni Amodeo, Orlando Gemes, the founder and Chief Investment Officer at Fourier Asset Management, shared his extensive journey and insights into the world of capital markets. The discussion primarily focused on creating repeatable alpha through data-driven strategies, particularly in the realm of convertible bonds.

Orlando Gemes began his career in investment banking at Deutsche Bank in 1997 and has since navigated through various significant roles in the industry. By 2015, he established Fairwater Capital and later founded Fourier Asset Management, emphasizing a data-centric approach to asset management.

Throughout the chat, Gemes detailed the evolution of his investment strategies, highlighting the importance of high-frequency, accurate data analysis in identifying market dislocations and inconsistencies. Fourier Asset Management employs a systematic approach, leveraging proprietary models to determine the relative value of securities and execute trades based on precise, empirical data rather than market speculation.

Key points discussed include:

1. The strategic focus on convertible bonds, which are often overlooked by major investors, providing a niche for specialized, data-driven strategies.
2. The rigorous data aggregation and cleaning processes that form the backbone of Fourier’s investment strategy, enabling the firm to maintain an edge over competitors.
3. The implementation of short-term trades based on systematic evaluations of securities being over or under-valued, with a strict seven-day trade limit to manage risk and capitalize on quick adjustments in valuations.
4. Continuous refinement of their models through back-testing, particularly in the U.S. market, to enhance the predictive accuracy and reliability of their trading algorithms.
5. Gemes also emphasized the role of a trader in the evolving landscape of asset management, predicting that a deep understanding of data and market dynamics will continue to be crucial, despite the increasing reliance on quantitative models.

The discussion concluded with insights into the barriers to entry for new firms in the asset management space, highlighting the challenges of establishing credibility and securing initial capital without a substantial track record.

This fireside chat not only sheds light on Orlando Gemes’ strategic approach to investment but also underscores the growing importance of technology and data analysis in generating sustainable, risk-adjusted returns in the capital markets.

Key timestamps:

00:09 Introduction to ION Influencers Fireside Chats
00:41 Orlando Gemes’s Background and Career Journey
02:29 Transition to Full Year and Focus on Delivering Repeatable Alpha
04:11 Choosing the Global Credit Relative Value Strategy
05:05 Challenges in Accessing Convertible Bonds Data
05:35 The Threefold Approach to Asset Analysis and Trade Construction
06:03 Identifying Signals and Analyzing Data
06:51 Acquiring and Cleaning Data for Analysis
07:41 Importance of High-Frequency Data Analysis
09:16 Using Empirical Data to Reduce Bias
10:18 Analyzing Convertible Bond Price and Equity Value
11:10 Systematic Approach to Identifying Cheap or Expensive Securities
12:04 Refining the Model and Backtesting
13:20 Studying Parameters for Delivering Repeatable Alpha
14:36 Adapting to Macro Changes and Market Paradigms
16:23 Model Performance Across Different Sectors
17:36 Workflow and Time Savings with Data Models
19:02 Reducing Bias and Interrogating Complex Questions with Data
20:33 Balancing Data Analysis and Management Team Interactions
21:11 Maintaining Data-Driven Investment Decisions
22:06 Qualitative and Subjective Trades
22:41 Focus on Risk Management
23:09 Fundamental Data and Margin of Error
23:40 Qualitative vs. Quantitative Analysis
25:03 Ideal Team Composition
25:40 Continuous Learning and Seeking the Best Minds
26:06 Evolution of the Role of a Trader
27:19 Identifying Inefficiencies in the Market
28:00 Focus on Ignored Asset Class
28:40 Adding Insights for Repeatable Alpha